You’re Seeing Donald Trump at His Most Conservative

From: Ace of Spades HQ,  by Ace,  on Feb 26, 2016,  see the article HERE.

[snip] continued from a much longer article, click link (above) to read it all.

Republican presidential candidate Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas speaks during the Values Voter Summit, held by the Family Research Council Action, Friday, Sept. 25, 2015, in Washington. (AP Photo/Jose Luis Magana)

My problem with Trump is that he is a dealmaker trying to make a sale. Right now he’s trying to make a deal with conservatives — so this is the very most conservative we’ll ever see him.

If he gets the nomination, he now starts working on making the second part of the deal with the other party in the negotiations, the general public.

So this is the most conservative we’ll ever see Trump — this is the absolute most conservative he’ll ever be — and he’s not conservative at all, except, possibly, on immigration. He combines liberal policy impulses with frankly authoritarian or even fascist ones, which he thinks are “what conservatives want,” because, frankly, he conceives of us as ugly-minded, stupid dummies who get off on this shit.

That’s why he didn’t put the “Ban Muslims” line in a more palatable, persuasive form, like “Reduce immigration from Muslim-majority countries or countries with a terrorism problem to a level where we can vet each individual applicant.”

No, he put it in the most bigoted, ugly way he could think of because that’s about his level, and because, also, that’s what he thinks “conservatives” are.

Even on issues like that, where I would like him to move the Overton Window so we can begin discussing a rational reduction of such immigration until this Jihadist Madness passes from history, I find he doesn’t move it at all, because he makes the issue much more toxic and alienating than it needs to be.

What does Trump actually know about conservatives? He seems to only know five things, which he repeats in such crude ways it’s preposterously insulting. Apparently we “love Jesus,” so he says he does too. He knows we love guns, so he’s so in love with the Second Amendment he wants to make out with it.

Does he ever explain the underpinnings of his belief in the Second Amendment, such that you get the impression if he’s challenged on it, he can break out chapter and verse on the amendment like Reagan would have and remained resolute in his position?

He senses we don’t like Mexicans or Muslims very much, so he wants to ban rapists and terrorists.

He knows we love babies and hate abortions, so he’s reversed himself from being “very, very pro-choice” and even supporting partial birth abortion to being so against abortion you couldn’t believe it. (But he’ll keep on funding Planned Parenthood because they’re a wonderful organization.)

He knows we love the military, so he proclaims himself, seriously, the most “militaristic” guy you’ve ever met. Then sometimes he talks about “bombing the shit” out of people to appease the hawks, and other times about a Ron Paul style isolationism, to appease his substantial Paulite wing.

Which is true? Who the f*** knows. I’m certain on this point he’s not lying, because I don’t think he knows what the f*** he thinks either.

Eh. I can’t do it any longer. I have supported him, weakly, as good comeuppance for the Establishment which seems to despise actual conservative voters, but I find that Trump’s own opinion of conservatives is pretty damn low too.

Down With Trump, But Vive Le Trumpism: I added this comment:

There are parts of Trumpism I want the GOP to adopt.

For example, I’m tired of the f***ing GOP acting as if it is its God-given role to wage Holy War on the American working man, as if they straight-up hate them.

They’re still flacking for companies bringing in foreign workers on H1Bs to replace Americans currently on the job. In fact, until recently, a lot of them were talking about expanding the already-abused H1B program.

If you take away all the jobs of the working class, or middle class for that matter, you’d better change your position on welfare to being gangbusters in favor of it, because if you’re going do everything in your power to keep a man from earning an honest dollar, you have to give him a dishonest one.

Otherwise, there will literally be bodies hanging from lamp-poles.

And I’m nationalistic — straight up, no apologies. You’re goddamn right I champion America over all others and citizens over non-citizens — and no, it’s not “racist” to discriminate in favor of citizens over non-citizens. YOU’RE SUPPOSED TO.

Otherwise you’re anti-American. Period.


There are two points that I wanted to get across by posting this article by Ace. That Donald Trump is at his most conservative right NOW. If he is the Republican nominee, you can bet your bottom dollar that he’ll swing away from conservatism in order to win over more liberal votes. So, just remember that he’s not going to become MORE conservative – he’s not even going to REMAIN as conservative as he is at this moment, he’s going to move to the LEFT. So, if you call yourself a conservative, just remember that.

There is another point that Ace makes that I think is valid. That there are PARTS of Trump’s actions and statements that conservatives can and should support. Especially those waging war on the GOP establishment. We’ve been screaming for that for years and he has certainly been a critical part in taking the wind out of their sails. So for that, we are grateful. 


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7 Responses to You’re Seeing Donald Trump at His Most Conservative

  1. Hardnox says:

    Excellent piece. There’s not a republican candidate since Reagan that didn’t tack to the middle after winning the nomination. The left panders to the extreme left (their base) then tack right immediately. The conventional group think is that moderates hold the keys to a win. I’m not so sure now. Most of the standards have been destroyed this go around.

    Given the $2 billion price tag of the general election, and if Cruz was the nominee, would he tack to the middle to win moderates? He’d owe the donors big.

    Today, one of our readers sent me this video of Trump 26 years ago on the Oprah show:

    Trump sounds pretty conservative to me and that was 26 years ago and he hasn’t said anything different then he’s been saying now. That said, Ace might be stretching a bit.

    Is Trump a conventional constitutional conservative? Nope. There’s only one candidate that is, and that’s Cruz. Will it make a difference to the voters? We’ll know on Tuesday night.

    • Garnet92 says:

      I watched the 26-year-old video and it’s true that Trump talked about the same thing (really only ONE subject) and that was that we do so much for other countries and we should get something for it – reimbursement and such. And on that issue, he’s right. As you know, there are several issues that I agree with Trump on, it’s just that I don’t trust that he fully understands that the president can’t run the country as if he’s the CEO with full power – that and I don’t think his temperament is suited for the job.

  2. CW says:

    Ace of Spades: “….and he’s not conservative at all.”

    That’s really all this conservative needs to hear.

    • Garnet92 says:

      Either there are multiple flavors of conservatives CW, or there are a lot of people who call themselves conservatives who really aren’t.

      • CW says:

        It’s somewhat understandable that people might be confused when you have an otherwise liberal candidate come out strongly opposing illegal immigration and threatening to bomb ISIS to the stone ages, but for me conservatism was defined by the vision of the Founders. People have unalienable rights and the power of the federal government is limited and strictly defined. If this is what drives your candidacy you’re a conservative, otherwise you’re not. And if you’re not a conservative you’re presidency can only send us further down the wrong path.