House’s Benghazi Report Contradicts Hicks’ Testimony

By Kyle Becker at IJ Review:

The House Armed Services Committee has released a report on the Benghazi terrorist attack of September 11th, 2012. Although the results are generally well-founded, there is one finding in particular that purportedly contradicts testimony on the deadly terrorist siege.

Here are the 6 key findings from the report:

  1. In assessing military posture in anticipation of the September 11 anniversary, White House officials failed to comprehend or ignored the dramatically deteriorating security situation in Libya and the growing threat to U.S. interests in the region. Official public statements seem to have exaggerated the extent and rigor of the security assessment conducted at the time.
  2. U.S. personnel in Benghazi were woefully vulnerable in September 2012 because a.) the administration did not direct a change in military force posture, b.) there was no intelligence of a specific “imminent” threat in Libya, and c.) the Department of State, which has primary responsibility for diplomatic security, favored a reduction of Department of Defense security personnel in Libya before the attack.
  3.  Defense Department officials believed nearly from the outset of violence in Benghazi that it was a terrorist attack rather than a protest gone awry, and the President subsequently permitted the military to respond with minimal direction.
  4.  The U.S. military’s response to the Benghazi attack was severely degraded because of the location and readiness posture of U.S. forces, and because of lack of clarity about how the terrorist action was unfolding. […]
  5.  There was no “stand down” order issued to U.S. military personnel in Tripoli who sought to join the fight in Benghazi. […]
  6.  The Department of Defense is working to correct many weaknesses revealed by the Benghazi attack, but the global security situation is still deteriorating and military resources continue to decline.

Before commenting on point 5, it should be noted 2(c), which once again points out that the State Department failed to bolster security prior to the September 11th, 2012 attack, which came after months of terror attacks in Libya and a deteriorating security situation. Any marginal decrease in funding for diplomatic security played no role in leading to the terror attack.

The fifth finding generally cuts across the grain of the compelling testimony of Gregory Hicks, the second in the diplomatic chain of command in Libya. Although activist non-profit Media Matters insists that the GOP report debunks that a stand down order was given, claiming that it refutes the “85 times” Fox has made the statement (according to a Lexis Nexis search), this report is specifically talking about Tripoli, Libya.

Fox News has repeatedly reported on the matter of whether or not Woods and Doherty, the eventually slain security personnel on the ground in Benghazi, were told to “stand down” rather than attempt to rescue the ultimately slain Ambassador Christopher Stevens and the diplomat Sean Smith. For example, Jennifer Griffin’s scoop referred to the denial of requests for help; the “stand down” order was reportedly given by the CIA to Woods and Doherty, not by the military to Tripoli.

Fox News has learned from sources who were on the ground in Benghazi that an urgent request from the CIA annex for military back-up during the attack on the U.S. consulate and subsequent attack several hours later on the annex itself was denied by the CIA chain of command — who also told the CIA operators twice to “stand down” rather than help the ambassador’s team when shots were heard at approximately 9:40 p.m. in Benghazi on Sept. 11.

Gregory Hicks’ testimony, in his exchange with Rep. Jason Chaffetz, makes it painfully clear that the U.S. military assets in Tripoli, Libya were “not authorized to travel” to go to the aid of those under siege in Benghazi. The term “stand down” is thus referring to any order that flies in the face of protocol to rescue service-members in harm’s way. It does not have to contain that exact phrase.

Rep. Jazon Chaffetz: Were any of these U.S. military personnel not permitted to travel on a rescue mission or a relief mission to Benghazi?

Gregory Hicks: They were not authorized to travel.

Furthermore, Hicks describes the military personnel in Benghazi who were told to remain in Tripoli while others were in harm’s way, i.e. being told to “stand down,” as being “furious.” Hicks quotes Lt. Colonel Gibson, who was interviewed for the House report, as having said, “This is the first time in my career that a diplomat has more balls than somebody in the military.”

And this is the entire problem with the entire Benghazi national discussion. It’s not what members of the Obama administration did during the terrorist attack — it’s what they didn’t do.

President Obama didn’t move heaven and earth to protect the diplomatic compound and our servicemen under siege by terrorists, although there were military assets in proximity. Hillary Clinton failed to convene the Counterterrorism Security Group and then failed to launch the In extremis force to come to the aid of Americans in harm’s way.

But then again, what difference does it make?

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It makes all the difference in the world.  They are lying. The House is ignoring the proof provided by Fox News, and they are ignoring the testimony of Greg Hicks.

Further, and also from IJ Review, this week, watchdog organization Judicial Watch released a map, obtained via a FOIA request, showing the position and distribution of American Naval assets in the region at the time of the terror attack on the U.S. Embassy in Benghazi, Libya.

“Destroyers could have responded to the attack,” says retired Air Force Lieutenant Colonel Randall R. Schmidt, who submitted the request for the map. He directs specific criticism at the Department of Defense, saying “the point is, there were enough forces to respond.”

Here is the map showing the location of assets at the time:

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Judicial Watch reports that Schmidt, who is independently investigating military response in Benghazi, strongly believes a greater military response could have taken place, and would have made a difference. The Congressional report says the military was not in a position to effectively respond. But on one point, both agree: the warnings were there, they were ignored, steps were not taken that should have been, and therefore Americans died.

Despite Obama’s continued objection that this is simply a Fox News controversy, it is clear that the questions about why this incident was allowed to happen remain, and responsibility has yet to be taken by those in our government who failed to act.

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“There were enough forces to respond.” It doesn’t get much plainer than that.

Chaffetz asked if military personnel were ‘permitted’ to travel and Hicks said travel was not authorized. In my book, that’s a stand down order.

Some points Fox’s Jennifer Griffin made:

“They could have tapped into the video from the drones to see what was taking place.

Dougherty and Woods were killed at 4:00am by a mortar shell, 6 hours and 20 minutes after the attack began.

One of them was on the roof of the compound with a laser pointer with eyes on the mortar attack team. That laser could have been used to guide in any specter gun ship or any other form of military help if it had been sent.”

So, whose head will we see on the chopping block? Hitlery, obama, or the head of the CIA? Likely the answer is none of the above, and that’s the most loathsome part of all.

~Kathy

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18 Responses to House’s Benghazi Report Contradicts Hicks’ Testimony

  1. Benghazi is a nest of lies. And it’s C Y A all over the place, without fail. And hitlery wants to be POTUS???? What a massive cow pie that would be~!, and no hip boots to be found.

  2. I think you’re quite right, Kathy. Nothing will come of it. At least not until the current congress is replaced. Even then, however, I have my doubts.

  3. Hardnox says:

    Excellent report Kathy.

    There is NO WAY that the former SEALs were not talking to someone because they would never have exposed themselves with the laser if they weren’t.

    I will never believe that help was not promised by someone. We’ll probably never know, and that’s the ugly part of it. Hildabeast and Zero are up to their necks on this and Congress is doing a shitty job getting to the bottom of this as are the media.

    • Kathy says:

      Yes, that is the very ugly part of it – help was offered but denied permission to travel.

      It’s unbelievable how they can pick and choose the pieces of information and evidence they accept as truth and totally discard the rest.

      Those military leaders who got ‘early retirement, etc’ need to band together and speak up. It’s likely they’ve been threatened though, and won’t make a peep until O is out of there.

      And where are those 30 survivors???

      • Hardnox says:

        Good question. Where are those 30 survivors? Why can’t Congress get them to testify. The State Dept. (Hillary) had them squirreled away under false identities. WTF!

        That alone should have had Congressmen screaming bloody murder.

        • Kathy says:

          Yes, remember the stories about the sworn statements to never testify on the subject? Their lives and their families are in danger, but does Congress press it? No they don’t, because they have elections to worry about too.

  4. Hardnox says:

    Let me add this video from Judge Jeanine as supporting evidence to the video above:

    • Kathy says:

      Thanks for adding that, Hardnox. Like many of us here, the Judge hasn’t and won’t let go of this either.

      She ask questions of O and H that we already know the answers to and they’re not good answers. Why would O not send help? Of Hillary she asks ‘how could you?’

      Because elections and power are more important than American lives. Remember, after all, this wasn’t H’s first kill. And likely not O’s either. Vince Foster and Loretta Fuddy come to mind.

  5. Crawfish says:

    The map from Judicial Watch has an error. There was a C-130 (Navy) and a reaction force (I believe Marines) at NAS Sigonella, Sicily. They were loading up when ordered to stand down.

    Not that I know people who were in the Navy C-130 maintenance community or anything….just sayin’.

    • Kathy says:

      Thanks for just sayin’… Since I’m not familiar with some of the terminology on the map (example: what’s an oiler?) in your opinion, and you other guys chime in here too, who was closest that could have been the best help?

  6. garnet92 says:

    Nox hit on something that struck me early in the aftermath of the attack; when I heard that Dougherty and Woods were supposedly illuminating a terrorist mortar team with a laser. That laser illumination serves to guide a missile to the target that is being “painted” by the laser. Why would they be doing that unless they expected to be guiding a missile attack on the enemy? Did they expect air support to be on the scene soon? Why else would they give away their position?

    I don’t care what they say; there can be NO justification for abandoning those men in Benghazi. NONE.

    Obama and Hillary have PROVEN that they cannot be trusted. Not only did they hit “snooze” button when that 3 o’clock call came, but they’ve been lying to us about it ever since. Barack Obama weighed the lives of those four men against his reelection and they lost.

    I can’t imagine how any American, regardless of party, can find the actions of Obama and Hillary to be acceptable. They, with full knowledge, let down those four Americans, our military, and the country, when they chose political expediency in place of doing what was right.

    • Kathy says:

      Excellent comments, Garnet, and from what I understand they wouldn’t have given away their position unless they thought help was on the way. In fact, if I remember right, they would not have been on the roof had they not been in contact with someone.

      I imagine there’s a number of people in our military, or formerly in our military, who are beating themselves up for not disobeying orders.

      Like the Judge said, ‘if they’ll lie to you once, they’ll lie to you again.’ Once a person tells the first lie, it only gets easier after that. It’s the snowball effect and to the third power with this admin.

  7. white531 says:

    I have commented on so many posts like this. If you would put all those posts together, it might make a good book, or a bad one, depending on your perspective.

    I’m not exactly joking about that. Look at yourselves. At all the things you have written. All the things from your heart, that you typed on a keyboard, late at night, when everyone else had already gone to bed. That is not a rare thing among people like us. Quite common, in fact.

    If we were still living in the time of our Founders, you might get me to believe in what a politician says. In this current environment? Not likely. There is almost nothing in our current government, nor our general society, that is not a scam in one way or another. I grasp for the words, but there isn’t anything in America that is still pure, the way it used to be.

    I’m not even going to use our government, as an example of what has gone wrong, because its so obvious. Forget the government. Our society is sick itself. Sicker than any society on the planet. And we still call ourselves, America. Really?

    This country has some of the highest crime rates in the world. We kill each other for fun. Most twelve year old children in this country are more familiar with pornography, than they are with Sunday School.

    Chicago. Obama’s Political birthplace. Probably the highest crime rate in the nation. If it was just Chicago, that would be one thing, but its not. Its almost every major city in America.

    So how does all this relate to Benghazi? Well, it relates to Benghazi like this. We have grown so used to corruption in our government, that it no longer surprises us. Thats why a person like Hillary Clinton can participate in something like the murder of four Americans, and then say, “why does it matter,” and then run for President. And she gets a pass, although she should be in prison for her actions.

    Because Americans do nothing.

    It is why Obama can issue his presidential orders, one after another, more than any President in History. And nobody says a damned thing.

    Because Americans do nothing.

    I can see a pattern developing here. Perhaps if Americans continue to do nothing, in the face of all these changes, pretty soon we won’t have to worry about it anymore. Because the Communists among us will take care of every aspect of your lives, while somehow convincing you that you are all still living in the Land of Freedom.

    • Well said, White! Every bit of it true, too.

    • Kathy says:

      You make some good points, White, but I beg to differ with you when you say Americans do nothing. While there are many that sit on the sidelines, there are many of us doing everything in our power to make a difference. Thanks to technology there are more people aware of what the government is doing now than there were 30 years ago.

      In efforts to enlighten others we talk until we’re hoarse, we write letters and emails to our reps and for all the good it does us, we cast our votes. We post on blogs such as this so we can counter the lies coming from the government and many of us are armed and prepped for the worst scenario possible.

      Short of WWIII I’d say we’re doing everything possible, and speaking of WWIII do a search on Operation American Spring – if this comes to fruition it could be just that.

  8. white531 says:

    This thread may be getting a little old, but I would add this. Judge Jeannine Pirro is a treasure, and I am glad she is on our side.