Armed gun rights activists rally at the Alamo
SAN ANTONIO (AP) — Several hundred gun rights activists armed with rifles and shotguns rallied Saturday outside of the Alamo in a demonstration that broke a longstanding tradition of not staging such events at the enduring symbol of Texas independence.
The “Come and Take It San Antonio!” rally was intended to draw attention to a right Texans already have — to carry long arms publicly so long as they don’t do it in a menacing manner. Organizers thought it necessary to offer a reminder after several open carry advocates were threatened with arrest at a Starbucks in the city two months ago. The problem remains that a local ordinance effectively limits the open carrying of firearms to police and security guards.
That ordinance was not enforced Saturday. San Antonio Police Chief William McManus mingled in the crowd that police estimated at about 300 to 400, but the larger police presence remained around the perimeter of the Alamo plaza.
“There are too many issues associated with trying to enforce every ordinance here today,” McManus said. He said his priority was that people be able to exercise their constitutional rights and that everyone remain safe. Volunteers walked through the crowd placing red plastic straws in rifle chambers, a visible assurance they were not holding a round.
Rally organizers said just holding their demonstration in front of police without incident was a victory.
“(The San Antonio Police Department) is no longer going to be messing with us,” said C.J. Grisham, president of Open Carry Texas, with the Alamo’s famed Spanish mission behind him.
Organizers had also hoped that seeing a large peaceful gathering of armed citizens in the downtown of the country’s seventh largest city would be a step toward making people comfortable with the sight. There were people of all ages in the crowd, including young children. Some waved flags that read “Come and Take It,” others dressed in period costumes, but most looked like anyone else one might encounter on the street, they just happened to be carrying rifles.
Men strolling through the streets with rifles isn’t an image to which Hilary Rand thinks people should have to grow accustomed.
Rand, a regional manager for Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America, was at a counter-demonstration about a half mile away. Amid hula-hoops and face painting, Rand called the gun rights rally “bullying” and said it may serve opponents’ interest as well.
“If anything, they’re just alerting the general public that this is something that needs to be changed,” she said. “Just because you can do something doesn’t mean that it’s OK and that you should. And if anything they’re helping to make that argument for us.” She said the threat of an accidental discharge was too great to justify gun rights advocates making their point.
For the tourists who just happened upon the rally — 2.5 million visit the Alamo annually — there was initial trepidation among some.
Mark Roberts, 63, of London, Ontario, was among a group of Canadian tourists caught off guard.
“We’re not used to seeing guns carried openly in Canada, so that was almost like a culture shock,” Roberts said, noting that it appeared well organized. It was more unnerving for his wife.
“I didn’t like it at all because you don’t know who you’re dealing with,” Julie Roberts said. “You don’t know who these people are.”
Another member of their group, Peter Hinch, declared it “fantastic,” but was dismissed by his friends as not your typical Canadian.
It didn’t give Don Norwood, 49, of Little Rock, Ark., any pause. Norwood, who was visiting the Alamo with his wife and daughter, hadn’t expected the demonstration, but gazing over the crowd, he said, “it’s healthy, that’s what America’s about.”
Asked if it made him nervous to approach the old mission chapel through the armed crowd, Norwood said, “No, they’re not a threat to me.”
The rally proceeded peacefully without incident.
For some, such as 27-year-old Colt Szczygiel, a retired U.S. Marine rifleman who just moved in September to Converse, Texas, from Connecticut, the rally was also his first visit to the Alamo. He toured the grounds reading plaques laying out the site’s history with his Bushmaster ACR rifle hanging from his shoulder.
“It’s great to be able to come here with my rifle for the first time,” he said. Texas’ gun-friendly culture made the move all the more attractive coming from Waterbury, Conn., he said. He had participated in gun rights rallies there, but this was his first in Texas.
Lee Spencer White, president of the Alamo Defenders’ Descendants Association, said her group considers the Alamo its family cemetery and as hallowed ground should remain free of demonstrations, which historically have been held on the adjacent plaza.
From 1905 to 2011, the Daughters of the Republic of Texas were the Alamo’s custodians. But in 2011, lawmakers gave the state’s General Land office control of the monument where Col. William Travis and 200 Texas defenders famously died in a siege with the Mexican army in 1836. It was Land Commissioner Jerry Patterson who approved the rally here.
“I respect the opinions of folks who say this is not the right place,” Patterson said to the crowd on Saturday. “But I submit to you there’s one standard we should apply to gatherings here at this sacred cradle of Texas liberty and that is whether our activity and our purpose would be supported by those men who gave it all.”
Patterson, who is running for lieutenant governor, asked attendees to not block the path to the mission and to leave their rifles and signs outside when entering the chapel. “Even though you can lawfully do that, we have a reverence for that location where those men died.”
This is great, especially in San Antonio, where they’re mostly blue in their politics. To have a showing like this means more and more people are asserting their right to carry and doing it in a peaceful manner.
But here’s the kicker with this story. Nowhere in the piece is it mentioned that these guys are part of the Oathkeepers group. This is the announcement from their website:
ONE THOUSAND LONG GUNS AT THE ALAMO!Associate Editor note: This release is sent to all who are considering participating in this event. Please, everyone, comply with the guidelines presented here, in order that the event may be successful. “This is NOT an open carry of handguns event – just rifles, but by that example of how we can open carry rifles safely and responsibly, we hope to eventually change Texas law to make open carry of handguns legal in Texas too” Again, this is an open carry of Long Guns event. Absolutely no hand guns, please.From Jay Stang, Texas Chapter President and Board Member, Oath KeepersWe as OCT, TC, CATI and DontComply understand some of these requests may offend some, but please understand that a lot was put on the line for this event for many people. We are showing how 1000 rational armed citizens can gather and obey the law (even if we don’t agree with it) Let’s make History on Oct 19th!!Long guns will have “flagged chambers” meaning a flag or 1/2 of a drinking straw will be inserted into the empty chamber and visible on the outside. This protects you legally! The City of San Antonio has an illegal ordinance (21-16) that makes it a violation to openly carry a “loaded” long arm on a public street. Loaded in SAPD means a chambered round and/or a full mag. We will be doing chamber checks only, and only on long guns. Holstered (secured) BP pre-1899s and CHLs will not be checked.We will have “safety” teams posted at the parking areas. They will have free chamber flags. It is recommended that If you are solo, that you wait at the “safety check” area for some fellow patriots and travel to the event site in teams. We should avoid individual movement at all costs. Travel in groups to The Alamo. We don’t want to open ourselves to be picked off one or two at a time.
Oathkeepers announced it on their website so they weren’t trying to remain anonymous. Why no mention of their name?
Click here to read Oathkeepers full statement.
(h/t to Wendy)