The Blind Leading The Blind.

When THESE two birds agree, in SUPPORT of the foolish Obama notion to use military strikes against Syria, you KNOW it’s a BAD deal for the U.S.

It figures Obama would seek out every RINO he could find, from McCain, on down. From Breitbart.com.   Bipartisanship my ass. It’s Lucy holding the football again.

 

Rush to War: Boehner, Pelosi, Cantor Back Obama on Syria

What a LOVELY couple, doing their best to SCREW OVER America YET AGAIN.

Must be discussing which booth to meet up in at Man’s Country. WHAT is Boehner measuring?? 
  by             Ben Shapiro         3 Sep 2013, 10:17 AM PDT

In an incredible display of bipartisan blindness, leaders of the Democratic and Republican parties have now declared their support for President Obama’s proposal for action against Syria. House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) stated on Tuesday, “I’m going to support the president’s call for action. I believe my colleagues should support this call for action.”

 

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) said that Syrian President Bashar al-Assad’s alleged use of chemical weapons “cannot be ignored.” She added, “Humanity drew the red line, not President Obama.” She stated, in a moment of almost unbearable irony, that the UN was acting far too slowly, and should not hold up action. She then invoked the foreign policy wisdom of her 5-year-old grandson to support the potential strike: “My five-year-old grandson, as I was leaving San Francisco yesterday, he said to me, Mimi, my name, Mimi, war with Syria, are you yes war with Syria, no, war with Syria. And he’s five years old. We’re not talking about war; we’re talking about action. Yes war with Syria, no with war in Syria. I said, ‘Well, what do you think?’ He said, ‘I think no war.’ I said, ‘Well, I generally agree with that but you know, they have killed hundreds of children, they’ve killed hundreds of children there. ‘ And he said, five years old, ‘Were these children in the United States?’ And I said, ‘No, but they’re children wherever they are.’”

House Majority Whip Eric Cantor (R-VA) also came out in support of Congressional authorization to use force in Syria: “I intend to vote to provide the President of the United States the option to use military force in Syria. While the authorizing language will likely change, the underlying reality will not. America has a compelling national security interest to prevent and respond to the use of weapons of mass destruction, especially by a terrorist state such as Syria, and to prevent further instability in a region of vital interest to the United States.”

The sudden consensus forming around giving President Obama authority to use military force in Syria willfully ignores the president’s own views on Syria. Obama has said that he will not authorize action aimed at regime change; he has suggested that action will be limited in scope and duration; he has articulated no actual end goals of engaging in military action.

In reality, there are three paths the United States could take in Syria: yes, no, and the worst possible option. “Yes” would mean action strong enough to either disarm the Syrian regime or replace it completely, providing a credible threat to Iran regarding her own nuclear weapons program but risking an al Qaeda takeover in the country; “No” would mean watching from afar as Syria continues to remain an internal struggle; “Worst Available Option” would be getting involved just enough not to achieve a decisive victory – just enough, as White House officials were quoted last week as saying, to avoid mockery of President Obama.

That third option is the Obama option. It is the same option utilized by President Bill Clinton in 1998 when he hit several camels and an aspirin factory in Sudan with cruise missiles in retaliation for the al Qaeda bombings of American embassies in Tanzania and Kenya. Al Qaeda survived; Osama Bin Laden came back to haunt the United States at both the USS Cole and on 9/11. Half-assed action does not deter anyone, or achieve any purpose.

In order to justify the military action Obama wants to take, Republicans and Democrats should be forced to explain how those actions will achieve desired ends. Thus far, here are the reasons articulated by the Obama administration and its allies on why the United States should take military action against Syria:

American credibility is on the line.Today I’m asking Congress to send a message to the world that we are ready to move as one nation,” Obama said in the Rose Garden on Saturday. Many top politicians feel that American credibility is on the line thanks to Obama’s idiotic “red line” drawn on Syrian use of weapons of mass destruction in 2012. But the fact is that Obama’s credibility has already been shot – by Obama. By proclaiming imminent action, then limiting that action, then sending it to Congress, he has demonstrated that he has no desire to take the sort of action that would provide American credibility in the Middle East.

Iran must be deterred. This is the rationale expressed by Boehner on Tuesday: “We have enemies around the world that need to understand that we’re not going to tolerate this type of behavior. We also have allies around the world and allies in the region who also need to know that America will be there and stand up whether it is necessary.” But “limited” military action in Syria without a goal of regime change will not do that. Iran’s mullahs are no fools. They understand that President Obama is a paper tiger; the Obama administration has routinely leaked Israeli security information in hopes of preventing an Israeli strike on Iran’s nuclear facilities, and the Obama administration remained largely silent during the 2009 protests in Iran. The Obama administration has even allowed Iraq, once a strong anti-Iran force in the region, to become a quasi-proxy state for the mullahs. Tossing a few cruise missiles into Syria without serious consequence would only serve to embolden Iran, which would rightly perceive that the sooner it goes nuclear, the better the chances of deterring American action against it.

 

It is in the interests of America’s allies, especially Israel, to strike Syria. This is the excuse most frequently cited by Obama’s allies in Congress. Cantor stated on Tuesday, “It is not just an abstract theory that the Syrian conflict threatens the stability of key American partners in the region. It is a reality.” But the Syrian conflict has been raging for years, with over 100,000 dead. Why is now the proper time for intervention? And why would leaving Assad in power accomplish anything on behalf of America’s allies? Assad has already threatened to launch a regional war against Israel, in the same way that Saddam Hussein did during the first Gulf War, in an attempt to unify the Muslim world against the Jewish state. Right now, the Syrian civil war has had little impact on Israel. But that will change quickly once Syria begins firing missiles at Tel Aviv. At that point, Israel will fire back. Will the United States then stick to President Obama’s “limited” use of military force, and leave Israel to fend for herself? Or will the United States get deeper and deeper into a conflict that has nothing to do with the United States, and has no clear allies and enemies for American national interests?

 

The use of chemical weapons violates basic standards of human conduct. Virtually everyone agrees that, if proved, the use of chemical weapons by Assad represents a shocking breach of basic human morality. This is Obama’s chief argument in favor of intervention. On Saturday, he stated, “Here’s my question for every member of Congress and every member of the global community: What message will we send if a dictator can gas hundreds of children to death in plain sight and pay no price?” Obama did not say the same thing when it came to Saddam Hussein gassing Kurds, but ignore the hypocrisy for the moment. The question becomes: does the United States have an obligation to intervene whenever weapons of mass destruction are used? If so, what should that intervention look like? It is easy for Democratic National Committee chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz to compare what happened in Syria with the Holocaust, and compare inaction here to inaction then. But there is one major difference: American interests were obviously at stake during World War II. America had a clear plan of victory. Neither is the case here.

 

In order for American action in Syria to be effective, there must be a plan, an end goal, a serious articulation of what happens after the cruise missiles hit. The Obama administration has presented no such plan, articulated no such goal. This entire charade has been played out because President Obama has encouraged Iran, emboldened Islamists, and spoke without thinking on Syria a year ago. The fact that politicians of both parties apparently want to sanction such a self-centered and anarchic foreign policy, in direct conflict with the desires of the American people and in direct contravention of both logic and American interests, demonstrates the true cowardice of our DC elites.

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A question to ask: By going along with this Syria fiasco that Dithers got himself into, WHAT benefit is there to ANY republican for going along with something, like Obamacare, an OVERWHELMING majority of the American people want NOTHING to do with ?

Does Boehner, Cantor, McCain, and Buttplug Graham not see WHY he has suddenly had a “change of heart” and is coming to Congress for approval? Can you say COVER ? 

WHEN this “firm stand” falls on it’s face, and knowing the way this administration operates, the Rules Of Engagement will tie BOTH hands behind the military’s back, blessed by the perfumed princes in the way-too-politicized Pentagon, Obama, along with the ever-dutiful lapdogs of the alphabet networks, and news outlets, will be panting and drooling about how “the republican-led Congress simply would not give him the resources necessary to carry out the campaign”. You know DAMN well that will happen.

Repubs, you idiots want some cover here?  One simple word to the BECS. SEQUESTER. The asshat has used it as a cudgel on YOU clowns, NOW is the time to return the favor.

We simply do NOT have the money for it. Nor the desire. Anyone see a strategy to WIN? Me neither. Anyone see the FAVORITE of the democrats’ wailings to Bush? WHERE is the EXIT strategy? Don’t have it? Surprise surprise. If muslims want to kill other muslims, FINE by me. Let them have at it, and let Allah, peace be upon him, sort it out. Just not on OUR dime.

Republicans would be wise to run from this disaster-in-the-making, before it gets started. Unfortunately, I do not believe they have the requisite brains to do so. Prove me wrong, Johnny-Boy.

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Clyde

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15 Responses to The Blind Leading The Blind.

  1. Buck says:

    If this doesn’t convince the people Boehner’s got to go nothing will.

    I only hope there are some Representatives left with enough balls to go against the House pimp.

    • Clyde says:

      Buck, thanks for dropping by, and I just see NOTHING good for the PSP to go along with this sham. Should asshat lob a few missiles, and something go wrong, WHO will get the blame? Sure as shit won’t be Obama.

  2. CW says:

    I agree with you Clyde. If Republicans were smart the first thing they would have done was bring up sequester and remind everyone how Obama and democrats have gutted our military, only to say “Oops!” now.

    But of course, Republicans are not smart. If they were they would not have demanded that Obama seek approval from congress to take action in Syria, even if they believe he should. That would have left Obama only two options: (1) take no action and demonstrate to the world that his threats are meaningless; (2) take action and assume 100% of the risk of whatever happens along with being a “warmongerer” and a president who engages in “illegal” wars, as some would inevitably claim. Instead he’s managed to totally turn the tables on congress, as you point out. Now they either share the responsibility for a strike (and you know Obama will find a way to put it ALL on them), and if they don’t approve it he has cover and will accuse republicans of not upholding moral standards, blah, blah, blah.

    • Clyde says:

      Thanks,CW. There are a scant few republicans questioning this, but since Boehner has come out saying they need to get behind it, the squeamish among them will cave as well. I see absolutely NOTHING for the repubs to worry about by opposing this lunacy.

  3. Hardnox says:

    Good post. I am really bothered by the R’s support.

    • Clyde says:

      Thanks, Nox. No matter WHAT happens, THEY will, once again, be the willing dupes. Absolutely NO reason to support this nonsense. Let Zero “go it alone”, and file the articles of impeachment .

  4. The Definition of Political Insanity.

  5. Mrs AL says:

    I am still waiting to hear what the end-game REALLY IS and what the next steps are should there be a negative outcome. I also want to know how this all ties in with Iran. Simple queries only need simple answers.

    Just to throw a little gas on the fire, did you hear the Resident’s comments in Sweden saying it wasn’t HIS “red line” but and INTERNATIONAL red line. What a pine cone.

    • Clyde says:

      That’s the problem with megalomaniacs like these politicians. The simple is just too complex for them, Mrs. Al. As to the lying asshat’s comments, WHY does NO ONE from the frigging media EVER challenge the veracity of his statements ?

  6. garnet92 says:

    As much as I loathe Obama, I give him credit for one thing: he knows how to shuck and jive Boehner and the other RINOs into being a foil for his actions. He never has to “own” anything since they’re always willing participants in the activities. If the action works out (when has that happened?) Obama takes credit, when the activity fails, he simply blames the Republicans – and the unwashed masses believe him.

    Until we replace the RINO assholes in DC with some conservatives with balls, we are doomed to live in Barack’s shadow. We’d all better get prepared to go all out for the 2014 mid-terms or forever else live under the democrat’s rule.

    • Clyde says:

      I always compare Boehner to Charlie Brown when Lucy pulls the football away when he goes to kick the damn thing. With much the SAME results. As for your last sentence, you, my friend, are spot-on. Comment Of The Thread. Take a bow.

  7. Buck says:

    Isn’t it funny (ha ha)? Obama is now saying that if the people’s representatives don’t support his military actions a brave people will perish…. Or if we don’t get involved and good people die it’s our fault.
    Kinda the same argument the right made against the anti-war people back in the days of Viet Nam when we DID have the lives of good people on the line…

  8. Kathy says:

    These RINOs think he’s coming around to doing his job and being their friend. They’re too stupid to realize they’re being used, nothing but a bunch of whores.

    This situation has been simmering for months now with thousands of lives lost, so all of a sudden he decides it’s time to take action. Be suspicious, very suspicious, of his motives.